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How This Military Veteran Built Her Real Estate Empire!

• Serena Holmes • Episode 87

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The structure, consistency, and resilience to build an empire!

Victoria Cluney's remarkable transition from military officer to real estate mogul reveals how discipline becomes the backbone of entrepreneurial success. 

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Beginning her military career at just 18, Victoria spent 23 years developing invaluable skills that would later fuel her business endeavors. 

While many would find these worlds incompatible, Victoria leveraged her military experience as the perfect training ground for navigating the challenges of real estate investing.

Her real estate journey began almost by accident when a posting to Nova Scotia prompted her to purchase a pre-construction townhouse rather than rent. 

When similar properties began selling for substantially more, Victoria caught her first glimpse of real estate's wealth-building potential. This initial success led to further property investments, though her path wasn't without significant obstacles.

The 2007-2008 financial crisis forced Victoria to become a reluctant landlord when she couldn't sell a property without substantial losses. For nearly a decade, she managed rentals remotely but admits she approached it ineffectively—not raising rents appropriately or treating it as a proper business. 

When she finally sold everything, the accumulated appreciation revealed just how powerful real estate could be despite her haphazard approach. This realization prompted her return to investing, but this time with strategy and intention.

Victoria's story takes a fascinating turn with her venture into hospitality through a glamping retreat, which thrived during the pandemic and sparked her passion for creative property development. 

Most recently, her partnership to develop tiny home communities earned her a spot on Dragon's Den, where she secured a deal with Arlene Dickinson despite feeling unprepared for the opportunity.

Today, Victoria has expanded beyond property ownership to build a diverse business empire. She runs Build Pro, coaching entrepreneurs to strengthen their online presence and attract high-value clients. Her organization WeBILD empowers women in business and real estate, with chapters expanding across Canada. 

She also manages several businesses including a boutique motel, with ambitious plans to build a nine-figure empire.

Victoria credits networking as her most transformative business strategy, noting that "one conversation can change the whole game." Her journey illustrates how real estate investing can not only create financial freedom but also open doors to possibilities previously unimagined.

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Follow Victoria on Instagram @VictoriaClooney and message "inspire" for a free personality quiz that identifies your entrepreneurial strengths and resource needs.

To connect with Victoria, go to @victoriacluney on social or cluneyco.com/bookacall.  

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Serena Holmes:

Welcome to the Inspired to Invest podcast, where we're sharing inspiring stories from business owners, entrepreneurs and real estate investors on the pursuit of wealth and financial freedom. This episode of the Inspire to Invest podcast has been brought to you by the REI Loop. Hi everybody, welcome to Inspire to Invest. I've got Victoria Cluney here with me from Cluney Co and she's joining us from Ottawa. She's a seasoned real estate investor with more than 20 years experience in multifamily properties, boutique hospitality and, more recently, tiny home communities, and was just recently featured on Dragon's Den, so we'll dive into that. She's also got a 23-year military background and a master's in organizational psychology, blending leadership, human behavior and business development to provide strategic thinking and sales coaching for entrepreneurs. As the founder of WeBuild and president of CRUA, victoria empowers ambitious women in business and real estate while leading BuildPro.

Victoria Cluney:

Thank you for having me, Serena. It's great to connect with you. I'm fantastic.

Serena Holmes:

So I found that so interesting that you have this military background. So we'll kind of go back a little bit and talk about what that was like being a woman in the military, and then you know where you made that jump over into real estate, because obviously those are two very, very different things.

Victoria Cluney:

They are, and so my career in the military started at 18 years old. Fresh out of high school, I just turned 18. And then, literally 10 days later, I'm on my way to basic training. So I didn't have a lot of time to even understand what was happening to me. And, yeah, it was really challenging because when I joined in 2001, and I joined the infantry reserves at the beginning but I went right into full-time work because the reserves is like part-time military, but I was offered a position, I worked full-time and it was a big culture shock to go from a high school girl, teenager, to now a woman in the military, but also one of the most challenging types of occupations, especially for a woman, and 23 years ago that that wasn't easy.

Serena Holmes:

And so you have family in the military, like what was your job. That feels.

Victoria Cluney:

I wouldn't even say there was an attraction to it. I joke around that I got tricked into it. Really I was supposed to be a horseback riding instructor after high school but my father, who was military, convinced my boyfriend at the time to join and I thought it was a good idea to follow along.

Serena Holmes:

I guess young love and so did you go, and he didn't.

Victoria Cluney:

So yeah, so we both. That would have been tragic. We both ended up going basic training the exact same time. We were in different companies so we never got to see each other. But yeah it, you know, I kind of got thrust into it and then I didn't think that it was the right fit for me. But you know, 23 years goes by pretty quickly and I've learned just so much from it and I'm so grateful for what I have learned. It's been very challenging, but I think that that's one of the reasons that I am the kind of businesswoman that I am today, because I have had to overcome a lot from my career.

Serena Holmes:

And, if nothing else, I think one thing with entrepreneurship is that you have to be really disciplined and you have to be really consistent in everything you do, and sometimes people think, oh well, if you're an entrepreneur, it can be easy to like sleep in and be like I'll just watch TV instead, you know, but I think you have to make sure that you're always kind of like doing what you got to do and that probably gave you a great foundation for where you're at now.

Victoria Cluney:

Exactly. I mean, the military is known for its discipline, and at the beginning you have somebody who's forcing you to be disciplined, but then just over time naturally you become, you adopt that identity, and so it is really a big part of who I am today and again just very grateful for it.

Serena Holmes:

Now, where did real estate come into the mix? I'm sure even just when you think about being a woman and maybe at the point where you want to have a family, or thinking more long-term. I'm sure that you were having all those you know thoughts and concerns and stuff like that, but making sure how that evolved for you.

Victoria Cluney:

So I became an accidental investor again because I was so young and I was surrounded by what you would say like quote unquote grownups in the Canadian Armed Forces. When I got posted to Nova Scotia from Ontario, which was at the very early days of my career about two years in, you have the I had to go find somewhere new to live, and so I was convinced to purchase a property instead of renting, and so I purchased a townhouse and it was a pre-construction and I had a partner at the time and so we purchased it together. But I went to Nova Scotia first and I felt really kind of cool at around 20 years old. Now I'm picking all the countertops, all the colors and what I thought was like very permanent decisions. But then, watching the market evolve over the past year, I noticed that the townhouses similar to ours were selling now for quite a bit more than what we purchased it, and that's where you know, I think like the entrepreneurship just evolved from there, and so we decided to sell that townhouse within about a year and do the exact same thing for another pre-construction, but this time a home. And so now I'm dealing with actual. They give you allowances. So instead of the developer saying, okay, you've got seven choices. Now I have $10,000 to design a kitchen, so I'm just like taking it to that next level.

Victoria Cluney:

And then eventually I bought my own single family home. That relationship dissolved and I got posted to the US and so I had to do something with that home, and this was around 2007. And so the market at that time we're just going into the collapse, if you remember 08. And I would have lost quite a bit of money buying that home and trying to sell it right away, yeah. So then I became a landlord, yeah, and I started to manage it at a distance. And I have my friends, you know again, we're just in our young 20s and they're emailing me because there's not really any texting at that time. Yeah, the state of the home and I'm, you know, going on Kijiji and just trying to figure it out.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, yeah, and I think that's where a lot of people start, right. I mean, there's so many things, even looking back now, that I'm like, oh, if I knew about this, then you know, I'm sure we all would have gone out and try to buy like multifamily buildings or something like that, knowing what we do now and just when it comes to finances and you know just everything about it, right, but you went from that townhouse and becoming this accidental landlord. How did you shift over into development and you know what you're doing now? That kind of landed you on Dragon's Den.

Victoria Cluney:

So I had to have a full breakdown and collapse and say I don't want any of this anymore. It was about a decade now of managing it. My new partner I convinced him to rent out his condo in BC and we had amassed a couple of properties by this time. But I hated being a landlord. So I actually really resented it for that decade and I got to the point that I just sold everything. I was like we're done, we sold everything, and it was the first time I'd actually seen the money that we had made.

Victoria Cluney:

Because I wasn't savvy for that first decade.

Victoria Cluney:

I wasn't treating it like a business, I was managing it out of like fear and scarcity and I didn't want to hire people and I wasn't raising the rents properly, and so I made all the mistakes that you could make, sold everything.

Victoria Cluney:

But then when I saw the money after like a decade of appreciation, that was when it was like, okay, it's not that bad, it's not actually that bad, it's like a redeeming quality to it. It was, it was and it was the thing that shifted me and I said, okay, I'm going to go back, I'm going to be intentional this time, and so I reinvested it back into the market more purpose built multifamily, and the thing that really kind of lit it up for me was a glamping retreat that I purchased Because multifamily is great and it has its place. It's very like, you know, set it and forget it if you get a good one. But the hospitality industry, which is where, like my, my love was born and that creativity came from started with this glamping retreat and so, yeah, I just started to market it, found social media through this because, again, the military, you don't really gravitate to putting yourself online.

Serena Holmes:

It's not really needed, nor are you probably need it. You don't really gravitate to putting yourself online Well and you wouldn't need it, nor are you probably allowed. You don't need it. I don't know what the restrictions are, but I know there's a lot wrapped up in essential services, at least with police and fire, so I'm sure you have to be very cognizant of that, what type of exposure, what type of message.

Victoria Cluney:

You are representing the Canadian Armed Forces at the end of the day, and so I'm very aware of my messaging and what I'm saying because of that. And yeah, I started this account and that kind of opened up doors for me as well and people started coming in and the news contacted me and global media, global news, wanted to do segments and it opened up to networks and so that was really where I would say everything kind of catapulted.

Serena Holmes:

Now for the glamping. Was that something that came about during the pandemic, where people were more limited with their travel?

Victoria Cluney:

It was right before the pandemic, so timing was perfect for us because in Nova Scotia we had the East Coast bubble, so people could still travel within Nova Scotia. So we were getting a ton of business that were coming to this glamping and the cabins that we had, these little bunkies on a lake were just far apart and it was the perfect getaway that everybody was looking for.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, yeah no, I know, I feel like the cottage business, you know, exploded during the pandemic here and even for our neighbor she kind of timed it perfectly, you know way, with a lot of money in her pocket and I think now the people that took over like, oh, we paid too much, and yes, I've talked a lot now, but you know, it is what it is.

Victoria Cluney:

It is what it is. So we got lucky with timing. We ultimately sold the cottage, because then we got posted to Ottawa and managing it from a distance would have been really difficult. And again, hindsight, I wish I would have thought about bringing on a boots on the ground. Who could have taken that? But I wasn't in that mindset at that time. And again back to networking. Why that's so important? Because today now I've done it myself multiple times but I, you know, had to see people do it first before I would even think to do it.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, yeah. I had a mentor that once said to me you know, if you look at something differently, it'll start to look different Right, and sometimes it's just meeting that right person. That's like well.

Victoria Cluney:

But I sell it.

Serena Holmes:

You could do this or, you know, rethink their strategy, because instead of 50%, they could be looking at 66, right, so it's going to change the game for a lot of people. So now, where did the tiny homes come into the mix? So the tiny homes was.

Victoria Cluney:

We had hired these contractors. So now I'm doing the real estate game and I'm making a name for myself in Ottawa and I'm leveraging social media and marketing and partnerships and just starting to grow Because I'm now building, I'm taking all the foundation that I had built quietly by myself, that slow growth and the training and I'm applying it and so I'm able to move pretty quickly in the game. And I had hired contractors to create a bathroom for us, because we have this gym that we invite people over to, and so I wanted to have a powder room for people to have access with the gym. The contractors were the type of people that you just know when you hire somebody. That's really good. The communication's great. They do good work. You found a unicorn Right. Yeah, you hold on to them.

Victoria Cluney:

Hang on, you're talking about contractors here, right? I know, I know these were fantastic. And so they also learned how involved I was in the real estate space. So they stayed in touch with me and about a year later they invited me out to come take a look at a coach home that they had built and they put like a cute little spread out. And they, you know, put a lot of time invested in that meeting. Yeah, and we got to talking about tiny homes and we got to talking about actually buying some land in the West end of Ottawa and how cool would that be to create a village? Yeah, well, then we go about our way and I start looking into it a little bit, but nothing really comes from it. And then again, a year later, I get a call again from the same contractor to say we partnered with a manufacturer who does modular homes and we're going to make this happen. Do you want in? Yeah, it was an easy yes. And so from there we just, you know, started to create the synergy within the team and everybody's roles.

Victoria Cluney:

And Dragon's Den came about because I was randomly scrolling on social media and this ad came up for a networking event in Ottawa and you get to meet the producers of the Dragon's Den. Yeah, I knew that there'd be auditions, but it wasn't that you had to audition to attend, yeah. So I thought, well, how cool would that be if we were to do this next year. I didn't feel like we were ready this year because we were so new in the startup game. And I went and I'm signing in and they're like are you auditioning? And I said no, no, not today, but when's your next opportunity? And they said, well, this is actually it and there's no guarantee that there's going to be a season 20.

Victoria Cluney:

So they're like, let's do it. That's, they were so casual about it, right, just do it. Yeah, and me not being one to like shy away from a challenge, and I thought, well, what is the worst that can happen? At least I get experience in the process.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah.

Victoria Cluney:

And so I did it. And, yeah, I auditioned that day, not prepared, they had coaches walking around so I talked to somebody to just really help me dial the pitch in. Yeah, and I could tell right away they loved it.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, yeah, and I think it's something that just again, the perfect timing right Like. There's such a necessity for affordable housing right now, and you know, canada just becomes a more. It's becoming so increasingly more expensive to live and inflation is compounding that, so I think it was probably just the perfect storm for you and just obviously something that was meant to be, that you're in that right place and you seize the opportunity.

Victoria Cluney:

Sun, moon, stars aligned, the leaning in right Because, like, everything inside of me was like you're not ready, Don't do it, and you'll never ever be ready 100%. And that really is something that I take to heart. I just always do it Because I know that anything that would be considered a failure or a setback is lessons learned to make me stronger. So I really truly believe it and I live it and, um, you know, I get rewarded for it.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, no for sure. Now, on that note, we're just going to take a really brief break forward from our sponsors and we'll be right back. There's no denying that real estate is one of the tried and true ways to grow your wealth, but if you don't have access to the right systems or software, you could run into issues from the very beginning. If this sounds like you, then you have to check out the REI loop. This is the ultimate tool for real estate investors. It's loaded with deals, resources and so much more. This platform will help you streamline acquisitions and dispositions and give you access to a powerful CRM to manage all of your relationships with clients, potential clients and suppliers. You can take advantage of a free trial or, better yet, they have an offer of $99 a month. Check them out at the REI Loop on social and thereiloopcom. The REI Loop is your go-to platform for everything related to real estate and real estate investing. Grow a portfolio to give you the financial freedom and long-term legacy that you're after. Again, go to thereiloopcom and give them a follow at thereilube.

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Serena Holmes:

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Victoria Cluney:

I mean, I hate to like follow on with the dragon stem, but that is pretty crazy for me. It is something that was terrifying and, you know, just so visceral in the feeling of fear that you have because you know the pitches are 45 minutes in this business. Like I can't even pretend that I've been in the tiny home industry for years and would be able to confidently respond to every single question. So to keep moving forward in that scenario, yeah, I look back now and I'm like holy, like I'm not.

Serena Holmes:

You got the deal. You got the deal and I believe that offered it to you, right Amazing.

Victoria Cluney:

Yeah, can you?

Serena Holmes:

talk about getting the deal and then what's really happened afterwards, because a lot of times you know deals can even fall apart and stuff like that. So maybe you can add a little bit more behind what's happened since you appeared.

Victoria Cluney:

That's right. So I got the deal and then, right away Arlene reaches out. So, and then right away Arlene reaches out, so we have meetings, we go through the due diligence, we make sure that we're still on the same page, because you know now that you move forward with the deal, then you want to make sure, okay, are we still all aligned and we're still going on our talks, right, and so it is a slow process and yeah, but Arlene, like, the last message I got from Arlene is how excited she is and how much she loves this and yeah, so we're continuing that on to find that right fit and synergy to make sure that everything is matching up the way that works for both Arlene and for us. So it's pretty exciting.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, I would say so. I mean, obviously, just she's the longest running dragon, from what I know, so I'm sure she can identify talent and opportunity at the same time. Now, when you talk about things like lessons and challenges, what are some of the obstacles that you've faced, whether it's in this business or even just some of your other past investments, whether it's in this?

Victoria Cluney:

business or even just some of your other past investments. I think the big obstacle for me is really, you know, seeing underbellies sometimes of, say, organizations or even people, because I'm such a straight shooter. Integrity is really big for me, ethics, and you can get those rose-colored glasses sometimes and think that people are on the same page. And coming from an organization like the military, where it's certainly not perfect, that's for sure, but we are all operating under like really kind of rules and order, and so that flexibility.

Serena Holmes:

Should move that to real estate, Because I think some people think we're in the wild wild west.

Victoria Cluney:

I was literally just going to say it is the wild, wild west. So I've had to become quite ruthless about where I spend my time, who I spend it with. I don't get it right every time, but when I do find out that there's a misalignment then I remove myself, and so that to me, has been probably the biggest eye opener coming into this world. And then you know also, I know a lot of people are suffering with the, with finances, and I did a private lending deal naively, did not do the right due diligence years ago again hindsight and lost like $200,000. Right, and so it's like that lit a fire under me, but it still stinks.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, no, I mean, I'm going through that as well. Like you know, with the education that I had and the communities that I was part of, it was becoming very normalized and very commonplace and I had done it successfully for a long time and then, all of a sudden, you know, what was once successful is now crumbling. And yeah, I'm batting a perfect score. I'm like 20 for 20 with every single deal and I'm cautiously optimistic. Some things will recover, but there's some things that, like I mean, I'm just going to have to. You know, the only way out is through. So you just have to keep moving forward and just take those lessons, take those lumps, you know, learn some things the hard way and just be grateful that I'm young enough that I can find a way forward, because there's some people that have lost their retirement savings, some people have, you know, really been distressed and done other things. So, yeah, it can resonate with that.

Victoria Cluney:

It can. And real estate is a risk, business is a risk, investing is a risk and this stuff does happen and you know just understanding. If you know how to make it once, you can make it again. But, like you said, like time, energy, skill, all of those things can play a part in whether or not you can recover and how quickly you can recover Absolutely.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, now, on a positive note, what would you say is some of the best advice that you've been given?

Victoria Cluney:

Best advice that I've been given is really just the you know that cliche your network is your net worth. I want to figure out like a different line because I hear it too much, but I really do value connections made, because one conversation can change the whole game for you, can open doors, and so for me I've really leaned into that and it's something that for the first 17 years of my career as an investor I didn't do and it has been the most impactful thing for me.

Serena Holmes:

And I think it's also a lot easier now, right. I mean, you know, we're probably, I think, close in age and we didn't necessarily have social media and we didn't have texting and smartphones and they were starting to kind of evolve direction. But it's a lot easier now and it's, you know, even when I think about the connections I have with people I've met through my podcast and stuff. They're all across the United States and, you know, I'm even connecting them with things here and it's like that wouldn't have maybe been a thing 10 years ago, right.

Victoria Cluney:

So absolutely not Everybody has access now. So, whether it's in person or virtual, there's going to be a meetup somewhere, or you can just connect on social media and just start following somebody who's doing cool things.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, what would you say is something you're most proud of.

Victoria Cluney:

I'm most proud of taking I'm most proud of taking a leadership role in the community. It was something that, when I came into the scene right away, I hosted a webinar. I noticed that people were interested in Nova Scotia investing, so I hosted a webinar and so really positioning myself as a leader in the community. I then started to run a meetup and now I rebranded it and I transitioned it to my own meetup. I do the coaching now, and so I've really been able to make an impact and it's so fulfilling for me.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, that's awesome. So is that how you would say? You spend your time now between the tiny homes, but also with the coaching?

Victoria Cluney:

Yes, yeah, so I. I have a group coaching called Build Pro, which is for business owners and investors who want to learn how to build a stronger presence online and attract higher value clients so that they stop spinning their wheels and not making the revenue and the cashflow that they need, or building businesses and so really helping people to take a stronger presence. But, yeah, so that occupies quite a bit of my time. I also own a number of businesses and so I manage those teams, and I also own a number of businesses and so I manage those teams. And I've got boots on the ground, I've got a boutique motel and very busy.

Serena Holmes:

Awesome, but in the best way. What is next for you? Because you have this, you know robust series of businesses that you have. So is there a particular goal in mind that you're reaching towards when it comes?

Victoria Cluney:

to things like financial freedom and lifestyle. So is there a particular goal in mind that you're reaching towards when it comes to things like financial freedom and lifestyle? So my plan is nine figures as a business owner, and that'll be through a number of businesses as we continue to grow our portfolio. We're doing developments right now. I want to build the coaching program to something that will be very impactful. Also, expanding, we build our Women Empowered. We've opened up a chapter in Toronto, we have one in Ottawa, we just opened a virtual one this month, and so there's a lot of expansion that's happening. I'm not trying to add more shiny objects to the plate, but we're trying to expand on what we do really well, which is buying scaling businesses as well. Expand on what we do really well, which is, you know, buying scaling businesses as well as mentoring others to do the same.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, I think that's definitely really exciting. How would you say real estate investing has changed your life?

Victoria Cluney:

It's it has it's. It's been the pinnacle thing that has opened up not only my eyes, to a life that I never even imagined to be possible. Like you don't know what you don't know, so real estate investing has opened that up for me. It has saved me financially. When we were posted here to Ottawa during the financial crisis, Like we, I didn't know how I was going to pay those bills, and so I doubled down and real estate investing has taken that stress and that pressure and afforded a lifestyle. Now that you know, we have that freedom.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, yeah, that's really exciting Now in terms of this podcast, obviously the name is Inspired to Invest, so I always like to ask my guests if there's a particular quote that motivates or inspires them.

Victoria Cluney:

So I love a good Jim Rohn and you know the one that always sticks with me is if you want something to happen, you'll make it work, and if you don't sorry I messed that up Okay, if you want something to happen, you'll find a way, and if not, you'll find an excuse. And to me, that really is the deciding factor from success and failure, because all the step setbacks is information, it's data, but you just keep going and you don't make that an option not to succeed.

Serena Holmes:

Yeah, I had a mentor that you know. You turn your setbacks into stepping stones.

Victoria Cluney:

Absolutely absolutely.

Serena Holmes:

Now for anyone that wants to get in touch with you in terms of your coaching or the tiny homes, or rebuilds what's the best way for them to get in touch?

Victoria Cluney:

So Victoria Clooney on all platforms. Instagram is always the easiest from a communication standpoint and, as a special treat for your listeners, if they want to follow me on Instagram and then just message me and let's say inspire we'll use the podcast name inspire. I will give a free personality quiz that I've developed my background. We develop these personality quizzes to let them know what type of entrepreneur they are, so that you know what the resources are that you need, because oftentimes we are looking for the wrong things, and so that you know what the resources are that you need, because oftentimes we are looking for the wrong things. And so when you know what your strengths are and you know what the resources are that you bring to the table, but also what you need, you can really align yourself with the right people with the networking side.

Serena Holmes:

I love that, so we'll definitely include all of that in the show notes below, of course. Thank you for your time. I'm sure you've got a very busy schedule on the go For anyone that is watching or listening. We appreciate your time as well. If you have enjoyed this episode, make sure that you like, comment and subscribe and you've also followed along with us on social at Inspired to Invest podcast. And remember, when you invest in yourself, the sky's the limit. Thanks again. Thank you to the REI Loop for bringing you this episode of Inspired to Invest. The views represented on this podcast are for general information only and does not constitute investment or other professional advice or an offering of securities. The host and guests featured on Inspired to Invest make no representations as to the performance of any particular investment. Should you decide to make an investment, you are responsible for conducting your own review and analysis. It is recommended that you obtain independent legal accounting and tax advice from licensed professionals.